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Moltres Duo Raid Guide

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Difficulty:

Easy at trainer level 30 with optimized counters or weather boost

HP15,000 ATK210.14 DEF157.21
CP Range
Lvl 20 1896 - 1980 Lvl 25 2370 - 2475

Notable Weather

Boosts Boss's Moves Boosts Counters' Moves
Sunny / Clear, Windy, Partly Cloudy Rain, Partly Cloudy

Fast Move Difficulty

Move Difficulty
Fire Spin Intermediate
Wing Attack Intermediate

Charge Move Difficulty

Move Difficulty
Fire Blast Intermediate
Heat Wave Easy
Overheat Challenging
Ancient Power Intermediate

Overview

The threat that Moltres has posed as a raid boss has consistently fallen off since its initial release back in 2017. Each new Rock Type Pokemon and move makes life harder and harder on the Team Valor mascot. It's to the point that Moltres is a fairly easy duo that potentially be soloed given the proper counters and a near-perfect situation. As stated, Rock Types are the absolute best counters for this raid, to the point where Kyogre has about 2/3 the DPS of Rhyperior with just over half of its TDO. It takes rainy weather plus a Water Type Mega Evolution on the field to allow Water Types to threaten the dominance of Rock Types.

Approach

Team composition

  • Rampardos has massive DPS that goes into Solo range in partly cloudy weather.

  • A team of Rock Wrecker Rhyperior has the TDO to duo without needing to relobby and is just a hair short of Solo DPS on its own.

  • Shadow Tyranitar is the middle ground between the other two.

  • Many other Rock Types are definitely viable for this raid and can easily make the duo.

  • Mega Blastoise and Mega Gyarados can make Water Types far more viable, and can even allow the top Water Types to rival many Rock Types in the rain.

Dodging strategy

  • Probably a good idea for Rampardos to keep its TDO as high as possible, generally not needed otherwise.

Note: "Good" movesets are not necessarily viable at the level indicated. At the listed minimum viable levels, expect to have a win rate >65%.

Best Raid Boss Counters

Mega Evolution Counters
Mega Blastoise Mega Blastoise
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Pros:

  • Makes Water Types viable in this fight, potentially even outclassing some Rock Types in the rain

  • Mega Evolution, boosts overall damage and Electric Type moves

  • Higher DPS when compared with Mega Gyarados

  • Resists Fire Type movesets

Cons:

  • Mega Evolution, Mega Energy is limited and can be difficult to replenish
  • Despite its boost to Water Types, still can't quite make Water as viable as the top Rock types outside of rainy weather
  • Best moveset is Elite
Mega Gyarados Mega Gyarados
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Pros:

  • Makes Water Types viable in this fight, potentially even outclassing some Rock Types in the rain

  • Mega Evolution, boosts overall damage and Electric Type moves

  • Higher TDO when compared with Mega Blastoise

  • Resists Fire Type movesets

Cons:

  • Mega Evolution, Mega Energy is limited and can be difficult to replenish
  • Despite its boost to Water Types, still can't quite make Water as viable as the top Rock types outside of rainy weather

Counters Viable at Lv.25

Rhyperior Rhyperior
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Pros:

  • Basically the perfect mix of DPS and TDO for this raid. Can make the duo trivial if enough are used
  • Resists Moltres' entire moveset
  • Good overall availability. Species has been featured in several events, its own community day, as a raid boss, and has been around since day 1

Cons:

  • Best moveset is Elite
Rampardos Rampardos
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Pros:

  • Absolute highest DPS option. Fantastic for getting ahead of the clock.
  • Resists Fire and Flying Type movesets
  • Decent historical availability. Species has been featured in several events

Cons:

  • Somewhat frail, appreciates dodging
ShadowTyranitar Shadow Tyranitar
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Pros:

  • Outstanding mix of DPS and TDO for this raid, sits between Rampardos and Rhyperior in terms of both
  • Resists Fire and Flying Type movesets

Cons:

  • Best moveset is Elite
  • Shadow Pokemon, expensive to raise and requires an event to remove Frustration
aero Shadow Aerodactyl
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Pros:

  • Resists Fire and Flying Type movesets

Cons:

  • Somewhat frail, appreciates dodging
  • Shadow Pokemon, expensive to raise and requires an event to remove Frustration

Counters Viable at Lv.30

Terrakion Terrakion
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Pros:

  • Good mix of DPS and TDO.
  • Resists Fire and Rock Type movesets

Cons:

  • Legendary species, candy can be difficult to obtain
ShadowOmastar Shadow Omastar
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Pros:

  • Double resists Fire Type movesets, resists Flying Type movesets

Cons:

  • Best moveset is double-elite
  • Shadow Pokemon, expensive to raise and requires an event to remove Frustration
Tyranitar Tyranitar
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Pros:

  • One of the old classics; great mix of DPS and TDO overall
  • Resists Fire and Flying Type movesets
  • Good overall availability. Species has been featured in several events, its own community day, and as a raid boss since the system's inception.

Cons:

  • Best moveset is Elite
Aerodactyl Aerodactyl
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Pros:

  • Resists Fire and Flying Type movesets

Cons:

  • Somewhat frail, appreciates dodging
Landorus (Incarnate Forme) Landorus (Incarnate Forme)
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Cons:

  • Legendary species, candy can be difficult to obtain
Gigalith Gigalith
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Pros:

  • Resists Fire and Flying Type movesets
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Pros:

  • The old classic, many older players have at least one ready
  • Resists Moltres' entire moveset
aGo Alolan Golem
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Pros:

  • Resists Fire Type movesets, double resists Flying Type movesets
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Pros:

  • Double resists Fire Type movesets, resists Flying Type movesets

Cons:

  • Best moveset is double-elite
Archeops Archeops
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Pros:

  • Resists Fire and Flying Type movesets

Cons:

  • Not a recommended investment due to low general performance 

Counters Viable at Lv.35

ShadowZapdos Shadow Zapdos
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Cons:

  • Shadow Pokemon, expensive to raise and requires an event to remove Frustration
  • Legendary Pokemon, candy can be difficult to obtain
  • Frail, appreciates dodging
ShadowElectivire Shadow Electivire
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Pros:

  • Highest non-Mega DPS option that doesn't use Rock Type moves

Cons:

  • Shadow Pokemon, expensive to raise and requires an event to remove Frustration
  • Frail, appreciates dodging

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