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Pokemon Stats

Type
187.00 kg Weight
2.01 m Height
Pokemon Max CP
Level 50: 3,372
Level 40: 2,983
Level 25: 2,130 (Raid + Weather)
Level 20: 1,704 (Raid)
Level 15: 1,278 (Research Tasks)
ATK 180
DEF 235
STA 225

PVE Movesets Grades

Quick Charge ATK DEF
Hidden Power*
Hydro Pump
B
Extrasensory
Hydro Pump
A-
Snarl
Hydro Pump
A
Snarl
Bubble Beam
B-
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PVE Offensive Moves Explanation

  • Snarl is Suicune's superior fast move thanks to its improved energy gains.

  • Extrasensory is right behind it, though it offers different type coverage. 

  • Hidden Power is generally an inferior move. Water is best, while Ground and Rock are next best.

  • Hydro Pump is optimal for its raw power, while Bubble Beam has more flexibility with 3 bars.

  • Water Pulse has weak DPS and is laggy to boot.

  • Scald even more so.

  • Ice Beam may have given Suicune a tiny breath of life on defense, but since Suicune can't be posted in gyms, it's entirely outclassed. Even if paired with Hidden Power Ice, it's still painfully bad.

PVE Overview

Suicune struggled severely in the PvE meta, and Shadow Suicune doesn't gain much. Honestly, it's just not worth raising for raids/gyms despite its fan-favorite status.

PVP Movesets Grades

Quick Charge ATK
Snarl
Bubble Beam
Hydro Pump
A
Snarl
Bubble Beam
Ice Beam
A-
Ice Fang
Bubble Beam
Hydro Pump
A-
Ice Fang
Bubble Beam
Ice Beam
A-

PvP Moveset Explanation

Snarl or Ice Fang + Bubble Beam and Hydro Pump or Ice Beam

Snarl is generally more preferable due to its significantly better energy gains, though Ice Fang can provide useful coverage against common typings.

Bubble Beam is recommended for its low energy cost, in addition to its guaranteed ATK debuff. Hydro Pump is more viable with Snarl's fast energy, and takes advantage of STAB to potentially OHKO opponents. Ice Beam can provide useful coverage, which can be more valuable depending on the format. 

PvP Rating Explanation

Great League: 3 / 5

Suicune is a relatively tanky Pokemon, and with a mono-Water typing it had difficulty standing out among the very populated Water-type picks. The September 2019 rebalance gave Suicune the moveset buffs it needed to climb up the ranks, with fast energy from Snarl and guaranteed ATK debuffs from Bubble Beam giving it some utility. Additionally, extra coverage from Ice-type moves are welcome tools which may be useful depending on the format. While accessibility might be the main drawback in its usage, only time will tell if it'll shake the meta. 

Ultra League: 3.5 / 5

Suicune's good bulk and excellent movesets are fantastic in dealing with the Giratina-centric meta that overshadows the Ultra League. Access to Ice-type coverage is valuable for dealing with common Dragon-types, while Snarl's fast energy and the debuff utility from Bubble Beam can make significant impacts if applied on important targets. Even for matchups that Suicune does lose, leaving the opponent debuffed could enable follow-up farming plays to turn the tide of the fight. 

Master League: 3.5 / 5

With a max CP of 2983, Suicune struggles a bit in Master League in terms of stats. However, Ice Fang and the debuff ability are key to keep its relevance here, allowing it to munch through many big Dragon- and Flying-types without having the unconvenient weaknesses of a true Ice-type. In fact, with Grass and Electric being uncommon here, Suicune can hold its own against a variety of threats.

Fast Moves

12
Extrasensory
More Info

Psychic

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.51x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS EPU DPS DPS w/STAB True DPS
1.10
0.20
10.91
10.91
13.64
12
Snarl
More Info

Dark

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS EPU DPS DPS w/STAB True DPS
1.10
0.20
12.73
10.91
13.64
12
Ice Fang
More Info

Ice

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS EPU DPS DPS w/STAB True DPS
1.50
0.60
13.33
8.00
10.00

Elite Fast Moves

15
Hidden Power
More Info

Normal

.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.51x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS EPU DPS DPS w/STAB True DPS
1.50
0.30
10.00
10.00
12.50

Charge Moves

130
Hydro Pump
More Info

Water

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS DPE DPS DPS w/STAB DPE*DPS
3.30
2.10
0.00
 1.30
39.39
49.24
 51.21
45
Bubble Beam
More Info

Water

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS DPE DPS DPS w/STAB DPE*DPS
1.90
0.25
0.00
 1.36
23.68
29.61
 32.30
70
Water Pulse
More Info

Water

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS DPE DPS DPS w/STAB DPE*DPS
3.20
0.70
0.00
 1.40
21.88
27.34
 30.63
90
Ice Beam
More Info

Ice

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS DPE DPS DPS w/STAB DPE*DPS
3.30
1.50
0.00
 1.80
27.27
34.09
 49.09
80
Scald
More Info

Water

1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
1.6x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS DPE DPS DPS w/STAB DPE*DPS
3.70
2.10
0.00
 1.60
21.62
27.03
 34.59

Exclusive Charge Moves

10
Frustration
More Info

Normal

.714x DamageVS
.714x DamageVS
.51x DamageVS
0.7 secs
CD DW EPS DPE DPS DPS w/STAB DPE*DPS
2.00
0.80
0.00
 0.30
5.00
6.25
 1.52

Secondary Charge Move Unlock Cost

Candy 120
Stardust 120,000

Purification Cost

Candy 20
Stardust 20000

Other

Flee Rate 4.0 %
Buddy Distance 20 km
Capture Rate2.0 %

Pokemon Type Chart

Vulnerable

160% damage
160% damage

Resistant

62.5% damage
62.5% damage
62.5% damage
62.5% damage

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Pokemon Min/Max CP Values

How to use: You need to know your Pokemon's exact level. To find exactly what level your Pokémon is, power up your Pokémon following this chart until you're certain of your level from Stardust cost changes.

A Pokémon's minimum level is 1.

Every time you power up, your Pokémon gains half a level.

StardustLevelMin CPMax CP
20013642
2001.57587
2002114132
2002.5153177
4003192222
4003.5231267
4004270312
4004.5309357
6005348402
6005.5387447
6006426492
6006.5465537
8007504582
8007.5543627
8008582672
8008.5621717
10009660762
10009.5699807
100010738852
100010.5775895
130011812937
130011.5849980
1300128861023
130012.59231065
1600139601108
160013.59971150
16001410341193
160014.510711236
19001511081278
190015.511441321
19001611811363
190016.512181406
22001712551449
220017.512921491
22001813291534
220018.513661576
25001914031619
250019.514401662
25002014771704
250020.515141747
30002115511789
300021.515871832
30002216241875
300022.516611917
35002316981960
350023.517352003
35002417722045
350024.518092088
40002518462130
400025.518832173
40002619202216
400026.519572258
45002719942301
450027.520312344
45002820682386
450028.521052429
50002921422472
500029.521792514
50003022152557
500030.522342578
60003122522599
600031.522712621
60003222892642
600032.523082663
70003323262685
700033.523452706
70003423632727
700034.523822748
80003524002770
800035.524192791
80003624372812
800036.524552834
90003724742855
900037.524922876
90003825112898
900038.525292919
100003925482940
1000039.525662961
100004025852983
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