Thundurus - Incarnate Forme Raid Duo Guide

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Tier 5 Raid Boss Guides

Doable at trainer level 30 with proper counters

HP15,000 ATK222.10 DEF141.50
CP Range
Lvl 20 1828 - 1911 Lvl 25 2285 - 2389

Notable Weather

Boosts Boss's Moves Boosts Counters' Moves
Fog, Rain, Cloudy Snow, Partly Cloudy

Fast Move Difficulty

Move Difficulty
Astonish Intermediate
Thunder Shock Easy

Charge Move Difficulty

Move Difficulty
Brick Break Challenging
Crunch Intermediate
Thunder Punch Intermediate
Thunder Easy


Thundurus is the second member of the Forces of Nature, and it's not a particularly easy duo. Tornadus being a pure Flying Type meant that it was a real air buster with its constant Flying damage, Thundurus comes out with cracks of lightning and a great defensive typing in Flying/Electric. While its counters provide ample damage for a duo, it tends to hit back hard enough to force relobies. That said, this fight is largely matchup-dependent, with some moves being very duoable with its main counters, while others provide much more of a challenge.


  • Try to scout out its moveset. Brick Break in particular can make a duo exceptionally hard, as it hits every major counter for Super Effective damage
  • Try for advantageous weather. Partly Cloudy is common in many areas, and can help make this duo a breeze. Snow is also great if you want to bring an Ice Type brigade. 
  • Front-load your best DPS options

Battling Strategy

  • If using high DPS options such as Rampardos, then prioritize dodging in order to avoid a relobby
  • If using lower DPS options, tank some hits to generate more energy and keep your DPS up.
  • Try not to faint with too much energy held

Best Raid Boss Counters

Mega Evolution Counters

Mega Aerodactyl Mega Aerodactyl
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Mega Aerodactyl is the highest DPS option among the Mega Evolutions on offer. And while that alone makes it attractive, add to that the fact that it boosts Rampardos and Rhyperior, two of the strongest and most common top counters to Thundurus, and it becomes a potentially devastating Pokemon to bring to the table. Utilizing Mega Aerodactyl will definitely bring some great rewards if you plan with your raid group to bring all of the big-name Rock Types to the field at the same time, and it even has the huge advantage of taking neutral damage from Brick Break; a feat that no other top Mega counter can boast! ....but let's just ignore the fact that it's at risk of becoming extinct again if Thundurus hurls a lightning bolt in so much as its general direction, k?

Mega Glalie Mega Glalie
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The top Ice Type DPS Mega, Mega Glalie can potentially raise your raid group to even greater heights thanks to the tremendous power of Shadow Mamoswine and Mega Weavile, making it situationally optional depending on raid group size despite dealing less damage than Mega Aerodactyl itself. However, it's not all good news; as the main Pokemon that it hopes to boost, Shadow Mamoswine and Shadow Weavile, aren't in every player's arsenal. If you have a larger raid group and can get everyone to front-load their Ice Type counters and/or it happens to be snowing, then Mega Glalie is your best friend. If not, it's probably best to stick with Mega Aerodactyl.

Mega Abomasnow Mega Abomasnow
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Drop some DPS and gain some TDO when compared to Mega Glalie and BAM! You've got Mega Abomasnow! Same points apply.

Supreme Counters

ShadowSwine Shadow Mamoswine
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The DPS King for this raid, Mamoswine does not fear the wicked crack of electricity that Thundurus seeks to crash down onto its head with the force of nature that befits its trio-title. A monsterus Pokemon, Shadow Mamoswine's ancient power stands against Thunderus as one of the undisputed greatest counters to its rampage... just so long as Thundurus doesn't have a green belt from that one Karate dojo in the mall and know how to break bricks.

ShadowWeavile Shadow Weavile
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Silent as the night, Shadow Weavile is a shadow and an assassin among Pokemon, coming in and lowering Thundurus into a frosty grave from which it shall never again ris-OH COME ON, DID IT SERIOUSLY JUST DIE TO ONE BRICK BREAK?!

Rhyperior Rhyperior
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Rhyperior doesn't have the DPS needed to directly contend with the other Pokemon in this tier of counters, falling short by a fair margin, in fact. So why is it all the way up here? Because it has duo-viable DPS combined with stupid high TDO! seriously; nothing in the game can challenge Thundurus for as long as Rhyperior, especially when facing down Electric Type movesets! It also has the bulk to face down Brick Break like a champ despite its weakness, giving it a very strong place in the Supreme Counters

Rampardos Rampardos
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Hit hard, and if that doesn't work, hit harder! Rampardos is the DPS king among the Rock Types, beating out Mega Aerodactyl by the tiniest fraction of a margin! It's not going to last long, especially if Thundurus is breaking every brick that it sees, but it's going to do some serious damage while it's active.

Good Counters

Galarian Darmanitan Galarian Darmanitan
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Snow ape hit hard. Snow ape have lots damage. Snow ape have nice afro. Snow ape still waiting for Zen Mode. Snow ape proud of afro. Snow ape no like Brick Break.

ShadowTyranitar Shadow Tyranitar
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Shadow Tyranitar is a great all-around counter to Thundurus, sporting great Rock Type performance and a resistance to Astonish and Crunch. It's really just a great all-around pi-OH COME ON, YOU COULDN'T EVEN SURVIVE BRICK BREAK LONG ENOUGH FOR ME TO FINISH WRITING THIS?!

...yeah, Brick Break hurts, but all kidding aside it should be able to survive at least one on average.

Shadow Mewtwo Shadow Mewtwo
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Behold the Pokemon that will save us from the tyranny of Brick Break! Shadow Pokemon, probably the most universal counter in this entire game, resists Break Break thanks to its Psychic typing, which allows it to resist Brick Break! This is one of the best all-around counters to this raid that you can bri-....oh crap, Thundurus has Astonish and Crunch, doesn't it?... welp, it's still good overall!

aero Shadow Aerodactyl
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While pretty low in the TDO department, Shadow Aerodactyl has respectable DPS that allows it to-aaand it was just struck by lightning. Time to find another Old Amber, I guess...

tyrantrum Tyrantrum
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IT'S A FRIGGIN T-REX GUYS! LOOK AT THIS GUY, IT'S GUNNA BITE THUNDURUS AND THROW ROCKS AT IT, HOW COOL IS THAT? ....oh crap, Thundurus just karate-chopped its head off.

Mamoswine Mamoswine
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The true classic Ice Type, Mamoswine is the old-reliable for this raid, hitting hard and lasting for a decent amount of time thanks to its resistance to Electric Type attacks. Just don't expect it to stand up to Brick Break for very long....

Terrakion Terrakion
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Hard hitting and strong, Terrakion has the rare advantage of resisting Crunch, making it a pretty attractive Pokemon to shore up weaknesses. But does it still take Super Effective damage from Brick Break? Yup!

ShadowOmastar Shadow Omastar
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Shadow Omastar can definitely throw some rocks... but it's weak to most of what Thundurus can throw at it, so it's not a great option overall.

aggron Shadow Aggron
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Remember the days of "DON'T USE AGGRON"? Well, we give you special permission to utilize Aggron... when it's in its Shadow forme. Just watch out for Brick Break, as its huge bulk won't work very well against it.

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Shadow-Golem Shadow Golem
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Gigalith Gigalith
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