
Requires specific maxed out counters or weather boost
HP | 15,000 | ATK | 229.20 | DEF | 178.60 |
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CP Range | |||
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Lvl 20 | 2217 - 2307 | Lvl 25 | 2771 - 2884 |
Notable Weather
Fast Move Difficulty
Move | Difficulty |
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Charge Beam | Easy |
Dragon Breath | Intermediate |
Charge Move Difficulty
Move | Difficulty |
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Outrage | Challenging |
Wild Charge | Challenging |
Crunch | Intermediate |
Flash Cannon | Easy |
Overview
The Dragon of Ideals is not an easy raid boss to duo. While it's a bit less weather-reliant than its brother, Reshiram, it has the potential to be a much more difficult battle depending on the moveset. Movesets with Outrage in particular tend to be downright brutal, with Wild Charge not far behind. On the other hand, its least effective moveset, Charge Beam+Flash Cannon is far more forgiving than basically anything that Reshiram can throw out. Overall, it's going to be a game of matching up moveset and weather boosts, and maybe throwing in a Shadow or two for spice. A duo is possible, but the situation pretty much needs to be ideal...
Approach
Team composition
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Top Mega Evolution choices are Mega Abomasnow, Mega Charizard X, and Mega Altaria, though the latter is only good in larger groups focusing on Dragon and/or Fairy Types.
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Powerful shadows can be key for reaching the needed DPS
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The good, old-fashioned dragons are still among your best friends; Rayquaza, Salamence, and Dragonite.
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Be ready with weather-relevant teams!
Battling strategy
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Have a second team ready, though an ideal setup with perfect weather and some smart dodges may not need to.
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Outrage is semi-easy to dodge and hits like a truck. Wild Charge is a bit easier, but can still hit very hard even in neutral weather. Flash Cannon is the least threatening move but is not super-easy to dodge. Crunch is the hardest to dodge and hits very often. Probably best to plan on powering through it for that reason.
Note: "Good" movesets are not necessarily viable at the level indicated.
Best Raid Boss Counters
Counters Viable at Lv.40 in Neutral Weather

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Tail | Outrage | Best |
Pros:
- Highest non-shadow damage in neutral weather generally
Cons:
- Weak to Dragon Breath and Outrage
- Takes neutral damage from Charge Beam and Wild Charge despite Dragon typing
- Frail, greatly appreciates dodging
- Legendary species, candy can be hard to obtain

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Tail | Outrage | Best |
Dragon Tail | Draco Meteor | Good |
Pros:
- Second-best non-shadow damage in neutral weather, potentially the first if used correctly.
Cons:
- Weak to Dragon Breath and Outrage
- Takes neutral damage from Charge Beam and Wild Charge despite Dragon typing
- Frail, greatly appreciates dodging
- Best moveset is Elite
Shadow Salamence
Shadow Salamence is the top counter for this raid, and can greatly help in getting ahead of the clock. If you're fortunate enough to have one, this is its time to shine.

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Tail | Dragon Claw | Best |
Pros:
- Very stable and reliable damage-output thanks to Dragon Claw
- Resists Charge Beam and wild Charge
Cons:
- DPS is border-line and TDO is low. Needs proper support to be viable
- Weak to Dragon Breath and Outrage
- Currently considered to be a rare species

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Tail | Outrage | Best |
Dragon Tail | Draco Meteor | Good |
Pros:
- Arguably the most common of the big-name dragons. Has been featured in events, its own community day, its own special research, and has been around since day 1
Cons:
- Weak to Dragon Breath and Outrage
- Takes neutral damage from Charge Beam and Wild Charge despite Dragon typing
- DPS is extremely borderline at best, generally not viable for a Duo
Shadow Dragonite
While normal Dragonite generally can't reach duo-level DPS, Shadow Dragonite is a very viable choice for this raid. It trades a little DPS for a little TDO when compared to Shadow Salamence, but can definitely help players beat the clock.

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Breath | Outrage | Best |
Pros:
- Outstanding performance vs. Electric Type movesets due to double resistance. Can help to anchor a solo team
- Also resists Flash Cannon
Cons:
- DPS generally falls just slightly short of Duo levels, needs DPS-support to be viable
- Very moveset-specific, weak to Dragon Type movesets.
- Legendary species, can be difficult to obtain candy for
Counters Viable in Windy Weather

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Tail | Outrage | Best |
Pros:
- Outstanding performance for moveset-specific matches due to triple resistance to Electric Type moves
Cons:
- Weak to Dragon Breath and Outrage
- Currently considered a fairly rare species

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Tail | Draco Meteor | Best |
Pros:
- Resists Flash Cannon
Cons:
- Does not resist Electric Type movesets despite Dragon typing
- Weak to Dragon Breath and Outrage
- Legendary species, can be difficult to obtain candy for

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Pros:
- Great all-around performer. Resists Electric Type movesets and Flash Cannon, takes neutral damage from Dragon Type movesets despite being Dragon Type itself
- Also viable in neutral weather as an anchor, but requires very high DPS support to excel in this role
Cons:
- Legendary species, can be difficult to obtain candy for

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Pros:
- Resists Electric Type movesets and Flash Cannon
Cons:
- Generally better utilized as a Fire Type attacker
- Weak to Dragon Type movesets
- Legendary species, can be difficult to obtain candy for

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Breath | Dragon Claw | Best |
Pros:
- Resists Electric Type movesets
Cons:
- Weak to Dragon Type movesets and Crunch
- Legendary species, can be difficult to obtain candy for
Counters Viable in Clear Weather

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Mud Shot | Earth Power | Best |
Pros:
- Resists Electric Type movesets
Cons:
- Legendary species, can be difficult to obtain candy for
- Might be wise to save candy for the strictly superior Therian forme

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Mud Slap | Earthquake | Best |
Pros:
- Despite general frailty, enjoys substantial bulk thanks to a plethora of viable resistances
- Resists Dragon Type movesets and Flash Cannon, double-resists Electric Type movesets

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Mud Shot | Earthquake | Best |
Pros:
- Double-resists Electric Type movesets
Cons:
- Legendary species, can be difficult to obtain candy for

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Pros:
- Double-resists Electric Type movesets
- Common species in many areas that has been featured in its own Community Day
Cons:
- Avalanche is still the move of choice despite Weather Boost
- Weak to Flash Cannon

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Dragon Tail | Earthquake | Best |
Mud Shot | Earthquake | Best |
Pros:
- Outstanding performance for moveset-specific matches due to triple resistance to Electric Type moves
Cons:
- Weak to Dragon Breath and Outrage
- Currently considered a fairly rare species
- Not as potent as its Windy weather Dragon-Type moveset

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Mud Slap | Earthquake | Best |
Pros:
- Very common species. Has been featured in several events, and its own community day. Has been available since day 1.
- Good general bulk compounded by a double-resistance to Electric Type movesets
Cons:
- Weak to Flash Cannon
- DPS is borderline, needs DPS support to be truly viable
Counters Viable in Cloudy Weather

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Charm | Dazzling Gleam | Best |
Pros:
- Double-resists Dragon Type movesets
- Good general availability. Has been featured in events and its own Community Day
Cons:
- Non-shadow Gardevoir's DPS is borderline in Cloudy weather
- Weak to Flash Cannon
Shadow Gardevoir
In cloudy weather, Shadow Gardevoir has power similar to what Shadow Salamence and Shadow Dragonite wield in neutral weather. It's also one of the only Pokemon truly viable Vs. Dragon Type movesets for a duo.
Counters Viable in Snowy Weather

Fast Move | Charge Move | Rating |
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Powder Snow | Avalanche | Best |
Pros:
- Double-resists Electric Type movesets
- Common species in many areas that has been featured in its own Community Day
Cons:
- Avalanche is still the move of choice despite Weather Boost
- Weak to Flash Cannon