The Tier List Preface
We are extremely excited to be done with Tier List 1.14! This wasn't as difficult as previous patches but as always we had our trouble maker creatures that caused much discussion. Before we share anything, however, we need to thank all those involved in the tier list!
So before we get into the list itself, let me first thank by name all of the wonderful people who took part in this list.
From GamePress: Bart, BBell09, Castal, Chrispychris27, CopperKiwi1987, Dadjokes, Dr.Reebecca, Ethan, Ghastpixel16, Jimbohi, Kelociraptor, K1ndr3dp2nd2, MNBrian, OrigamiRobot, Piere87, Praisebigboy, Prominence, Steph, The AquaDemon, thedqk
From our GP Discord: ColoMtn, DrSteveC, Hersh, IDGT, Mizz wrecks, Practicekat, Stephasaurus, TeaWrecks
And our celebrity squad of PokefodderYT and MattE from the JWA Field Guide App.
We truly wouldn't be able to do the tier list for the community without all of the people involved. We don't always 100% agree on everything (cough Yoshi cough), but we try to bring in a diverse group of people that will give the best analysis of the dinos and where they should fall. So let's get to it!
Method to the Madness
Many people want to know how the tier list gets compiled so here is a look at our process:
First, we assemble a team (kind of like the Avengers) and send out a survey to see where people think a particular dino should fall. This survey is done prior to any sim results being released so the results are based on experience with the creatures in the arena and any friendly battles we do (and trust us, we do a lot!). Then we compile the results and if there is any dino that had less than 65% of the group agreeing on the tier it goes on the "contested list". That's when the real fun begins. Imagine almost 30 people in a closed channel on discord trying to discuss where Thoradolodaur should be placed. Both sides of the argument make their case and we do one more vote to determine the ultimate placement. Everyone also has a veto where they can bring up a dino or appeal the placement of one already discussed. Often times, vetos lead to even more discussions of even more creatures so this process can take some time until we have reached a conclusion or just given up and left it to the power of democracy.
Some of the dinos on the list are only in that specific tier because they lost or won by 1 vote so just because it isn't where you might think it should have been, doesn't mean there aren't other people that agree with you! We tried to make it as democratic as a process as possible.
Our tier list is based on strictly even levels disregarding boosts. This is an important piece of information because eventually you will hit lesser and lesser returns on your creatures with boosts, and a tier list can help you figure out what to keep working on and what you should have abandoned long ago because it hits a ceiling that makes it a liability. Our tier list is meant to help you -- all things being equal -- find the very best creatures and hopefully the best investments for your boosts.
This also means rarity is not taken into consideration when discussing the tier list. Spawns change. Arena exclusives become not so exclusive. And now sanctuaries even opens up a new world of possibilities for people to attain DNA that was previously impossible to get outside of featured dinosaurs or incubators.
Our tier list is based on discussion and matchups. We run hundreds of friendly battles on our own, determining what is working and what isn't. We have a comprehensive combat simulator created by the JWA Field Guide that helps us see how every single creature stacks up against every single other creature and we run every 1v1 matchup 4000 times.
But this is not a simulation tier list. If it were, we'd have it ready for you on patch day. This is a tier list that 25+ wonderfully talented and intelligent individuals have discussed ad-nauseum to get to the bottom of each creature, using ALL information at our disposal (friendly battles, simulation results, our own arena experiences, etc).
There weren't a lot of significant changes to creatures this patch so we only voted on Apex and above as well as any that had any changes (like Definite Rampage moves) and new creatures. There were options for write-in creatures if someone felt something needed to be brought up that wasn't on the initial votes. As mentioned above, once we tallied all the votes, the creatures that had less than 65% majority were put on the contested list. We have 75% as the threshold for the Tyrant tier as we feel like that tier in particular needs a large majority of voters to agree on it.
The table below reflects the initial contested creatures and how they were voted. As you will see later, many ranks change dramatically after the initial votes.
|Creature||Initial Voted Tier||Majority Vote||Next Highest Voted Tier(s)|
|Ardentismaxima||Low Tyrant||60.90%||High Tyrant (39.1%)|
|Indoraptor Gen 2||Low Tyrant||69.60%||High Tyrant (21.7%)|
|Mammotherium||Low Tyrant||69.60%||High Apex (30.4%)|
|Smilonemys||Low Tyrant||69.60%||High Apex (21.7%)|
|Keratoporcus||High Apex||61.90%||Mid Apex (33.3%)|
|Stygidaryx||High Apex||54.50%||Mid Apex (45.5%)|
|Tenontorex||High Apex||65.20%||Mid Apex (26.1%)|
|Brontolasmus||Mid Apex||61.90%||Low Apex (33.3%)|
|Entelochops||Mid Apex||50.00%||Low Apex (22.7%)|
|Indominus Rex||Mid Apex||54.50%||High Apex (45.5%)|
|Grylenken||Low Apex||54.50%||High Alpha (27.3%)|
|Majundaboa||Low Apex||45.50%||High Alpha (27.3%)|
|Megalogaia||Low Apex||65.00%||Mid Apex (35%)|
|Purutaurus||Low Apex||61.90%||Mid Apex (38.1%)|
|Scutosaurus||High Alpha||59.10%||Low Alpha (27.3%)|
|Moschops||Low Alpha||45.50%||High Alpha (18.2%), Beta (18.2%)|
|Proceratosaurus||Low Alpha||56.30%||Beta (43.8%)|
|Arctops||Beta||35.00%||High Alpha (30%)|
Most Discussed Creatures
High Tyrant was completely uncontested this time around just showing how incredibly powerful these 3 hybrids really are. In fact, Geminititan had a 91.3% Vote to High Tyrant so it was almost unanimous. As always, there were other creatures that came up early, often, and repeatedly. We won't go over all of the creatures that changed tiers, but a few of the most hotly contested or most discussed ones were Thorodolosaur (we seriously can't get away from this one), Procerathomimus, Mammotherium, and Stygidaryx.
Thor has become a bit of a four-letter word in the eyes of the tier list participants. As you remember it dropped down to Mid Apex last patch and people were not happy about it. GamePress stands by the placement though as we still believe Thor is one of the most annoyingly boosted creatures out there and when you are constantly losing to the same creature in the arena it's hard to think of it as Mid Apex. But as we always base our list on unboosted creatures, that is where most of us still feel it falls. We aren't going to lie, most of us were pretty much burned out by the Thor debate. We discussed in full last patch and not much changed for it this patch. We still had some discussions but we made the decision to bring it to votes pretty quickly as we didn't want another 12-hour discussion as we've had in the past.
The votes weren't as close as last time as we had 6 people for High Apex and 17 people for Mid Apex. So for once, Thor doesn't move, but I will give credit where credit is due to the people who want it to raise. They are a determined bunch and would like it known that they are 100% against it being in Mid Apex. But we still love them.
Yoshi was another creature that many people were not happy about the drop. We still had a very divided camp when it came to our tier list group and spent a lot of time analyzing data and figuring out how to analyze the data to get our respective points across. We still believe Yoshi should get its own tier as it really is right in the middle of Low Tyrant and High Apex. What was ultimately decided is Yoshi does very well in many 1v1 situations but once it uses up its Rampage move, it has to wait for 2 more turns before it can get a big hit in again. And with armor, immunity, and evasive bypassing abilities available on so many of the Tyrants, Yoshi just couldn't last as long as many of them. The debates got heated (what's a tier list without a heated debate) and once again we left it up to the majority vote.
The votes were tied for quite a while, but a couple of people were persuaded otherwise, and it was ultimately placed in High Apex with 14 votes. Low Tyrant had 11 votes. Please note that just like last time, we still think this is an incredibly strong creature and while we don't rank each tier, we can all agree that it is probably the strongest in High Apex.
This was another tough one for us. Mammotherium is no doubt a strong hybrid, but the change to Definite Rampage (2 turn cooldown instead of 1) hurt it more than the hybrid it creates, Mammolania. It still has the stalling ability, but since it is still vulnerable to stuns, slow, and distract, it can't keep taking down creatures like it once used to. It is still a very viable end game creature and is best used late in a match. But once the Definite Rampage is used up, it's often a sitting duck to whatever comes out next allowing that creature to possibly set up on it. We think because of all those reasons, it isn't quite Tyrant material anymore and therefore dropped down to High Apex.
Daryx took a surprise leap last patch and while it didn't receive any direct nerfs or buffs there was questions about its High Apex status. Daryx is a very niche dino, as are many of the Mid and High Apex creatures. It does very well against a specific group of creatures (like Grypolyth and Diorajasaur) but still struggles immensely against many of the other High Apex and Tyrant creatures that are immune or can't be bled. It still has incredible versatility on the right team and now that Cautious Strike doesn't cleanse, it is a viable Indoraptor Gen 2 counter. The vote was extremely close on this one with 10 people voting High Apex, and 11 people voting Mid Apex. So we were pretty much torn right down the middle with this one with Mid Apex barely edging out the others.
Where We Go From Here
We are still working on updating our Tier List page on the website, but we will make sure to have that done as soon as possible and will link that here when we do so. In the meantime, make sure to check out all the official images below for the full list.
We also want to mention that this tier list is a general guide and if a creature on your team drops a tier it doesn't mean it isn't still a good option for you! Boosts can really change how these creatures fit in the current meta. So use this list as a guide, but don't think it's the end all be all.
We also know that with all the changes we are expecting next patch (based on the "teasers" we have seen so far) this list might look completely different in a couple of months. We can't wait to see what changes the next patch brings and hope it's the big shake up most people are expecting.
All in all, this was quite a feat and we're excited to share it with you! What are your thoughts? Do you agree with the placements? Join our discord to chat more!