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Best Water Pokemon?

We all know Kyogre is the best (till we know about Palkia) but what of the rest?

Gyarados is solid with WF/HP but is ironically weak to Rock which it is supposed to counter

Milotic is not a very good attacker and not very easy to obtain (discounting the latest research quest) but is bulky and defends well

Vaporeon is plentiful, cheap to evolve and an amazing budget option but is not guaranteed because its a 33% chance after the 1st try

Which to work on?

Asked by AyameNoop3 years 1 month ago
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Pretty easily is Gyarados. Milotic is a good TDO option but Gyarados also has a fair amount of bulk to work with. Don't forget that Gyarados' Flying typing also mitigates its weakness to Grass/Ground moves, which are commonly carried by Pokemon it counters, such as Groudon, Ho-Oh, and Rhyperior.

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Ah forgot about it taking neutral grass/ground damage

Maybe I'll assign countering rock pokes to Groundon instead

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Highest DPS: Kyogre (Palkia isn't slated to learn any water-type quick moves, so Kyogre gets to remain the king of water-type).
Highest nonlegendary DPS: Gyarados.
Arguably best gym defender: Milotic.
Potentially best option in the 1500/2500 PvP tiers: Blastoise w/ Hydro Cannon.

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Even with no water fast move atm, Palkia is still the second highest DPS water attacker. It's just another Mewtwo situation. I thought it's worth mentioning since Palkia's dragon typing may put it above Kyogre in certain situations since Kyogre is pure water.

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by Kazlu 3 years 1 month ago

So you want a water pokémon to counter a rock pokémon with good DPS but also good TDO?

Think no further than Swampert. He is already good with WG/S, but when it gets Hydro Cannon he will be even better.

Non water options include Groudon (but I suggest you would rule him out just as well as Kyogre), FP Venusaur, MM Metagross and more.

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More of wanting a water pokemon to counter a rock pokemon, like it should

Then again between Groundon and MM Metagross I think that sector is covered

Guess its Garys for me to vs Fire pokes, but then again Rock has the exact same profile with both dealing super effective damage and having resistance, and SD Tyranitar does better DPS and TDO if I'm reading the spreadsheet right

Water pokes don't really seem to have meta relevance anymore though Gary bucks the trend by being as good as Grass pokes vs Ground because of resistance

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I must admit I rarely use water pokémon. Only occasions have been Onix solo raids. Didn't have the occasion to try a Donphan solo raid, I'd be happy I have a Kyogre I guess.

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Easily it’s gyarados as above. Not many have resources to max 6 kyogre (I certainly don’t) so gyarados is the best fallback.

You mention about the rock weakness which is true but it also bring to it immunity tier resistance to ground which pulls it ahead of kyogre for total damage output vs a ground target using ground moves. Flying typing is also a blessing because a few things gyarados counters (ninetales, groudon) also know solar beam and this again elevates it to just a tad below kyogre.

However with some CD water starters incoming i wouldn’t max more than one gyarados

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What to work on. Save Totodiles for the CD in January and Mudkips for the CD in July. Feraligatr will become the best non-legendary water type attacker with Hydro Cannon, and 6 months later it will get outclassed by Swampert getting Hydro Cannon.

If you need one right now, get Gyarados for optimal DPS or Vaporeon for ease of access. EDIT: And don't worry so much about Gary's rock weakness. Rock raid bosses frequently sport non-rock moves that Gary resists, especially ground.

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sounds like a plan, but I still don't have a good totodile till this day and I don't really think water types are really that relevant

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If you can play during the community day, just evolve a few of the largest CP Totodiles you can catch. But you are right in that water isn't the most important attacking type.

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